From lojbab@lojban.org Tue Sep 26 10:45:29 2000 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_0_3); 26 Sep 2000 17:45:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 29508 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2000 17:45:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 Sep 2000 17:45:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-4.cais.net) (205.252.14.74) by mta3 with SMTP; 26 Sep 2000 17:45:25 -0000 Received: from bob (ppp41.net-A.cais.net [205.252.61.41]) by stmpy-4.cais.net (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8QHjOQ81803 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 13:45:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lojbab@lojban.org) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000926133413.00a20630@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 13:41:40 -0400 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Get Much Ca$h ! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 11:35 PM 09/25/2000 +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > go'e GOhA penultimate bridi > > pro-bridi: repeats the next to last bridi > > > >That seems to contradict you. What am I missing? > >The cmavo list is not always very precise. go'e repeats the >bridi only when used as the whole bridi, but go'e itself >is a brivla. Any brivla is a whole bridi when used by itself. > >There is an example of {le go'i} on page 155 of the book. I disagree with you. go'e and go'i repeat the whole bridi - the brivla AND the specific sumti that were associated with that brivla in the referenced bridi. Thus le go'e or le go'i are referring to the x1 of that particular bridi, just as le klama refers to the x1 of some presumed bridi relationship based on klama. Remember that the original use of the word is in answer to a yes/no question, which repeats the bridi asked about in that question. Likewise the pro-bridi usage "go'i ra'o" would be meaningless if go'i did not implicitly include some specific sumti values to be preserved by the ra'o. go'i has the grammar of a brivla, but unlike most brivla, it comes with specific values implied by default for all of its sumti, specifically all of those of the referenced bridi. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org