From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sat Oct 07 09:05:42 2000 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_0_3); 7 Oct 2000 16:05:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 16402 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2000 16:05:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Oct 2000 16:05:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.16) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Oct 2000 16:05:41 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:05:41 -0700 Received: from 200.42.118.103 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 07 Oct 2000 16:05:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.42.118.103] To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] RE: "except the cat" Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 16:05:41 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2000 16:05:41.0419 (UTC) FILETIME=[70DE27B0:01C03078] From: "Jorge Llambias" la pycyn cusku di'e >Old logician's rule: "All except the cat ..." = "Only the cat not..." = >"Everything if not ... then is the cat". But usually we want to say (as >logicians often do not) that the cat does not... as well as that nothing >else >does. So "Everything not ... if and only if is the cat" Yes, all that is logical, but too cumbersome in many cases. What I would want is something to tag a sumti as an exception, I don't want to have to write two logically connected sentences. co'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.