From pycyn@aol.com Sun Oct 08 12:40:44 2000 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_0_3); 8 Oct 2000 19:40:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 24603 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2000 19:40:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Oct 2000 19:40:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r18.mail.aol.com) (152.163.225.72) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 Oct 2000 19:40:43 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.26.) id a.c.ba41543 (6398) for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:40:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:40:40 EDT Subject: RE: except the cat To: lojban@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 From: pycyn@aol.com pc said <<{ro da onoi le mlatu} say.>> oNAI (bad typing habits and ghosts of loglans past combine) As xorxes would soon point out no doubt, this does not work on the ususal X sumti1 ek sumti2 Y => x sumti1 Y ijek X sumt2 Y transformation (though one could pull some Gricean logic to help it along) but presupposes an earlier rule, something of the sort X Qx ek L Y => X Qx Y ijek X x=L Y. I suspect that there ae restrictions on at least Q and ek (probably corestrictions) and maybe on L in all this. But it is an interesting rule to look at and develop. Indeed, I suspect that a number of problems that are basically solvable by logical usage can be dealt with in these rules. But "even" isn't one of them even though there is a theorem of logic that every property has a least likely (and a most likely) participant. The problem is that "even" does not actually require the least likely thing, only a sufficiently unlikely one.