From araizen@newmail.net Thu Oct 12 15:25:44 2000 Return-Path: X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_1_0); 12 Oct 2000 22:25:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 12876 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2000 22:25:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 12 Oct 2000 22:25:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mo.egroups.com) (10.1.1.34) by mta3 with SMTP; 12 Oct 2000 22:25:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: araizen@newmail.net Received: from [10.1.2.207] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 12 Oct 2000 22:25:44 -0000 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:25:39 -0000 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: New lujvo definitions in file area Message-ID: <8s5dp3+deoe@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <062401c03449$813ba2c0$22191bc1@rus.ger.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 919 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 62.0.182.135 From: "Adam Raizen" "Daniel Gudlat" wrote: > > ga'ormolsna closed+mouth+sound: consonant: > > I don't like that one at all. For one thing (and I know I may be going > down the picky route here) only one consonant is pronounced with a > closed mouth (m), and to me, "humming" is the most plausible parse for > this, in that it was the first to come to mind. How about consonants being "jaksna" (narrow+sound) (sance lo jarki), since a consonant is a sound producted when some part of the mouth is narrowed. (s1 is a consonant produced at narrow place (of mouth) j1=s2, narrow by standard j3 (j2 default)) That way the x2 could differential between labials, dentals, velars, etc. Similar, "vowel" could be "gansna" (sance lo ganra) (s1 is a vowel produced at broad place (of mouth) g1=s2, broad by standard g3 (g2 default)). Likewise, x2 to specify front/back vowels and x3 I guess for high/low vowels. co'o mi'e adam