From xod@sixgirls.org Thu Oct 19 19:17:43 2000 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_1_0); 20 Oct 2000 02:17:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 16089 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2000 02:17:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Oct 2000 02:17:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO erika.sixgirls.org) (209.208.150.50) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Oct 2000 02:17:41 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by erika.sixgirls.org (8.11.0+3.3W/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9K2HeF14999 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:17:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:17:39 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: literalism [was: Re: [lojban] Re: looking at arjlujv.txt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, michael helsem wrote: > Tanru are "binary compounds". Kennings are "compound metaphors", often of > two units & thus deceptively resembling the former. In tanru, the modifying > gismu limits the scope of the modified, or together they specify the area of > their overlap. A kenning paints a picture; one term sets the context, the > other makes a metaphorical substitution that suggests the referent WITHIN > this context (famous example: "tunafish is 'chicken of the sea'"). A kenning > is really a kind of naming (hence my ME LA). "Rug rats" does not mean > LOLTAXFU RATCU & it would be seriously misleading to turn this into a > lujvo... Rug Rats : Kids :: Immaterial Machines : Software The difference that makes one good and one bad is very cultural, very subjective, very personal. It hardly pays to discuss it, that's how subjective it is! ----- It takes a lot of work to realize how little work it takes to achieve Slack.