From jjllambias@hotmail.com Thu Oct 19 19:49:56 2000 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_1_0); 20 Oct 2000 02:49:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 24392 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2000 02:49:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Oct 2000 02:49:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.172) by mta3 with SMTP; 20 Oct 2000 02:49:55 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:49:55 -0700 Received: from 200.42.119.86 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 02:49:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.42.119.86] To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: literalism [was: Re: [lojban] Re: looking at arjlujv.txt Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 02:49:55 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2000 02:49:55.0551 (UTC) FILETIME=[6D7B9EF0:01C03A40] From: "Jorge Llambias" la xod cusku di'e >Rug Rats : Kids :: Immaterial Machines : Software > >The difference that makes one good and one bad is very cultural, very >subjective, very personal. One crucial difference from my cultural, subjective and personal point of view is that I have no problem in considering software as members of {lo'i minji}, but I can't really think of kids as members of {lo'i ratcu}. The first just extends the meaning of {minji} beyond the meaning of English "machine", but that happens with just about every Lojban gismu, they usually have broader meanings than the English keyword. I can similarly see {ratcu} extended to cover guinea-pigs, for example, but kids? co'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.