From pycyn@aol.com Tue Nov 14 07:44:23 2000 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_2_1); 14 Nov 2000 15:44:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 32084 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2000 15:44:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 14 Nov 2000 15:44:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r20.mail.aol.com) (152.163.225.162) by mta3 with SMTP; 14 Nov 2000 16:45:27 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.32.) id a.99.c7edbfb (3848) for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:44:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <99.c7edbfb.2742b7c2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:44:02 EST Subject: Re: days and dates To: lojban@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_99.c7edbfb.2742b7c2_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 From: pycyn@aol.com --part1_99.c7edbfb.2742b7c2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en pier: <> =20 Quite true, but -- despite the way we us the rafsi =E2=80=93 Sunday is not = a djedi=20 but a detri. We use {djedi} and{masti}, etc. to prevent confusion, since=20 otherwise both are just numbers, again despite our best efforts to suggest= =20 other versions. As for your comment about the place in dates, I can only repeat for the nty= =20 nth time that the order in Lojban is determined by what is most likely to b= e=20 left out put last, not by some abstract sense of proper order.=C2=A0 So far= =20 nothing that has been said has changed that (and it has all been said sever= al=20 --part1_99.c7edbfb.2742b7c2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en pier:
<<The place structureof {djedi} is that of a measuring unit: x1 i= s x2 days
long
by standard x3. This does not make sense as a place structure for a day= of the
week, or a month of the year; the only time we use a day of the week li= ke that
is in "a month of Sundays" (x1 is 30 Sundays long). I= propose
thatthe place
structure of days of the week, days of the month, and months of the yea= r be x1
is the Sunday of week x2, or a Sunday of month x2, etc. So:

le pavyvondei be le bikyjukmasti be le relki'ona'a be'o be'o noi fagdei= >>
=20
Quite true, but -- despite the way we us the rafsi =E2=80=93 Sunday is = not a djedi
but a detri. We use {djedi} and{masti}, etc. to prevent con= fusion, since
otherwise both are just numbers, again despite our best e= fforts to suggest
other versions.
As for your comment about the place in dates, I can only repeat for the= nty
nth time that the order in Lojban is determined by what is most li= kely to be
left out put last, not by some abstract sense of proper orde= r.=C2=A0 So far
nothing that has been said has changed that (and it has= all been said several
times and ways).lo --part1_99.c7edbfb.2742b7c2_boundary--