From pycyn@aol.com Thu Nov 30 18:53:04 2000 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_3_1_2); 1 Dec 2000 02:53:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 8360 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2000 02:53:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Dec 2000 02:53:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r15.mail.aol.com) (152.163.225.69) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Dec 2000 02:53:03 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id a.68.9aae230 (4596) for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:52:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <68.9aae230.27586c7f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:52:47 EST Subject: Re: [lojban] "common" words To: lojban@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_68.9aae230.27586c7f_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 From: pycyn@aol.com --part1_68.9aae230.27586c7f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/30/2000 5:03:12 PM Central Standard Time, Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de writes: > There was a man named Po-ya who knew to play the Ch'in very well. > I don't think "There was" would be {puzu zasti} functionally. For the most part, the function of "there was" is to delay the subject a bit, a stylistic rather than a content form. Lojban could accomplish in a variety of ways: by shifting to VSO order, by putting in a prenex form {da poi pu nanmu zo'u} ({da se cmene ...}), and probably others. Most of your problem words seem to be similar empty expressions. --part1_68.9aae230.27586c7f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/30/2000 5:03:12 PM Central Standard Time,
Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de writes:



There was a man named Po-ya who knew to play the Ch'in very well.
puzu zasti fa pa nanmu noi se cmene zoi gy. Po-ya gy



I don't think "There was" would be {puzu zasti} functionally.  For the most
part, the function of  "there was" is to delay the subject a bit, a stylistic
rather than a content form.  Lojban could accomplish in a variety of ways: by
shifting to VSO order, by putting in a prenex form {da poi pu nanmu zo'u}
({da se cmene ...}),  and probably others.  Most of your problem words seem
to be similar empty expressions. --part1_68.9aae230.27586c7f_boundary--