From cowan@ccil.org Fri Dec 01 04:04:00 2000 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@locke.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_3_1_2); 1 Dec 2000 12:03:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 68038 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2000 12:03:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Dec 2000 12:03:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO locke.ccil.org) (192.190.237.102) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Dec 2000 12:03:55 -0000 Received: from localhost (cowan@localhost) by locke.ccil.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA02623; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 08:22:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 08:22:07 -0500 (EST) To: Ivan A Derzhanski Cc: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: zoi gy. Good Morning! .gy. In-Reply-To: <3A2742B5.3DD201B2@math.bas.bg> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Ivan A Derzhanski wrote: > No, I think this one is much worse. The concepts `young' and `old' > are in fact scalar opposites. What scale are `curse' and `bless' on? Something like "x1 directs divine attention to x2, intended to have effect of degree N" where N varies from "highly positive effect" (blessing) to "highly negative effect" (curse). > `What do you mean?' he said. `Do you wish me a good morning, > or mean that it is a good morning whether I want it or not; > or that you feel good this morning; or that it is a morning > to be good on?' > > Unlike Gandalf (and unlike Pycyn, it seems), I fail to see > how `good morning' can be thought of as anything other than > a mere formality. When was the last time you decided not > to say `good morning' to someone because it was not really > a good morning (it was raining, say), or you thought a good > morning was not something you wanted to wish him? The last time I passed a personal enemy. > There is a perfectly good Lojban expression to use in all those > situations in which English speakers say `good morning', namely > {coi}. What do you need another one for? Well, Bilbo's final use of "Good morning!", which is perfectly idiomatic BTW, means more like "co'o". -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org One art/there is/no less/no more/All things/to do/with sparks/galore --Douglas Hofstadter