From phma@oltronics.net Sun Dec 03 14:26:19 2000 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@oltronics.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_3_1_2); 3 Dec 2000 22:26:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 76845 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2000 22:26:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Dec 2000 22:26:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.oltronics.net) (204.213.85.8) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Dec 2000 23:27:19 -0000 Received: from neofelis (root@localhost) by mail.oltronics.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA13426 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:26:01 -0500 X-BlackMail: 207.15.133.49, neofelis, , 207.15.133.49 X-Authenticated-Timestamp: 17:26:11(EST) on December 03, 2000 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] common words Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:23:06 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0012031725560F.11907@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Pierre Abbat On Sun, 03 Dec 2000, Jim Carter wrote: li'o >(About "decoding the human genome": it isn't cyphertext. Our intellects >are figuring out how to read it in its own represention, the same one our >cells have been reading for billions of years. Similarly we don't "decode" >.aulun's big5 Chinese poetry that he's translating into Lojban; readers >with the skill and the software (I have neither) read the texts on the >texts' own terms.) Okay, so what do we call "codes" such as ASCII, Unicode, Morse, and Big5 which aren't secret? Are they also termifra, as are PGP, Blowfish, and the lead-bound code book on a ship? phma