From jcowan@reutershealth.com Mon Dec 11 10:25:55 2000 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_3_1_3); 11 Dec 2000 18:25:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 44097 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2000 18:25:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 11 Dec 2000 18:25:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta3 with SMTP; 11 Dec 2000 19:26:58 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[192.168.3.11]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07264; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:27:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A351BEB.70900@reutershealth.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:24:43 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001107 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: And Rosta Cc: pycyn , lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] sisku (was: Re: bringing it about) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan And Rosta wrote: > I'm not clear how {tu'a} would help with {sisku}. For reference, the place structure of "sisku" is "x1 searches for something with property x2". Indeed, it's hard to see any > way of saying in standard Lojban both > > There's a book that I'm looking for. da poi cusku zo'u mi sisku lo ka [ke'a] me da da poi cusku zo'u mi sisku tu'a da > I'm looking for a unicorn. mi sisku lo ka [ke'a] -unicorn > using one and the same selbri. I don't know if this counts as "one and the same" or not. > FWIW, I would prefer not to seek a solution at all, and to use > "X troci lo (?) nu X know-the-whereabouts-of Y" instead. I don't know if there's a sufficiently vague predicate for "know-the-whereabouts-of". That works for seeking a unicorn, or even an antelope in North America, but how about seeking the largest prime number? That will never be "found", but the search is not through physical space. -- There is / one art || John Cowan no more / no less || http://www.reutershealth.com to do / all things || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan with art- / lessness \\ -- Piet Hein