From jjllambias@hotmail.com Fri Dec 15 19:48:26 2000 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_3_1_3); 16 Dec 2000 03:48:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 3714 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2000 03:48:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Dec 2000 03:48:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.119) by mta1 with SMTP; 16 Dec 2000 03:48:25 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:26:11 -0800 Received: from 200.42.118.147 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:26:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.42.118.147] To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: detri Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:26:11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2000 00:26:11.0410 (UTC) FILETIME=[CAA3E320:01C066F6] From: "Jorge Llambias" la xod cusku di'e >but look at definition two: > > facki [ fak fa'i ] discover ; 'find' > x1 discovers/finds out x2 (du'u) about subject/object x3; x1 > finds (fi) x3 (object) The second definition is an attempt to salvage {facki} for the basic meaning of "find", but the x2 place is still there. >ja'o mi facki fi le sfani befi'o nenri le mi stasu It should be {be fi'o se nenri}, or just {be ne'i}, or {poi nenri}. Yes, you can do that, but to me it sounds much more clumsy than {tolcri} with a straightforward place structure. co'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.