From Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Mon Jan 01 14:28:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-6_3_1_3); 1 Jan 2001 22:28:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 26605 invoked from network); 1 Jan 2001 22:28:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Jan 2001 22:28:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ch.egroups.com) (10.1.10.51) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Jan 2001 22:28:41 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.10.132] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Jan 2001 22:28:38 -0000 Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 22:28:35 -0000 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: Li Pin & jbopemci Message-ID: <92r0aj+bggk@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1491 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 193.149.49.79 From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Alfred_W._Tueting_(T=FCting)?=" --- In lojban@egroups.com, "michael helsem" wrote: > >From: "Alfred W. Tueting (T=FCting)" > .u'u mi nartcidu lo jungo sai .e lo dotco ru'e zo'ocu'i stidi lu lo dotco sai li'u > >klama le dibzda > > > >lei galma'a se bancu > >.ijenai ze'u klamu'o > >mi fa lo notci >=20 > pau va'i melu lo xatra na ravykla le cmana ja'e lenu mi > cpacu vo'a li'u Yes, but I wanted to express the Chinese "verbal and written messages" in a= =3D=0D more concise term. > >.i pu ra'unre'i le dunra > >capu'o le vensa seltei >=20 > va'i melo mi ba'o renvi le dunra .e le vensa li'u Yes, thats the German (shorter) translation; I followed the original "li4 c= =3D=0D hun1" (lih chuen), which is a solar term (begin of=20 spring=3Dabout Febr. 8-15) > >.i lei ba seldu'o > >cu zmadu tepri'a >=20 > pau skudji zo seldu'a .enai seldu'o .i stidi lu co'a > dunku le cnino li'u Sorry, this was a typo, it should read: "le ba selju'o" Yet, {dunku} seems a lot better, hence: .i mi ca zmadu'u le ba selju'o > >.itemu'ibo mi na darsi > >lenu ca reisku fi > >lei se penmi > >be fi lemi dargu >=20 > banzu .i torzma fa lu .ii preti ri .i bai tolkucli li'u ".i bai tolkucli" doesn't seem appropriate, for infact it's {kucli} paired = =3D=0D with {dunku} lei galma'a se bancu .ijenai ze'u klamu'o mi fa lo notci .i pu ra'unre'i le dunra capu'o le vensa seltei .i ca ve'a viska le dibzda .i mi ca zmadu'u le ba selju'o .itemu'ibo mi na darsi lenu ca reisku fi lei se penmi be fi lemi dargu ki'esai mi'e la .aulun.