From phma@oltronics.net Tue Jan 30 19:55:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 31 Jan 2001 03:55:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 25502 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 03:42:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2001 03:42:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (207.15.133.46) by mta2 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 03:42:48 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id C6E383C566; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:42:28 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: phma@oltronics.net To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Tehtar for vowels, and nasals Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:28:43 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29.2] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0101302242280B.07119@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat Since Lojban has no triphthongs, could we not express diphthongs by putting two tehtar on one tengwa? The first would be to the left of the second, unless the second were y, in which case the first is above and the y below, or the tengwa is halla, in which case maybe one is to the left of the halla and the other to its right, or maybe the first is just above the second (there isn't room on top of a halla for tehtar). That would mean that the tengwar 21 and 22 are not needed for vowels, and we can use them for n and m, instead of 17 and 18 which are longer. By the way, I have been using a full-vowel mode of my own invention for English for many years, much to the puzzlement of those who try to read my writing. phma