From topaz@linkline.com Thu Feb 01 07:51:22 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: topaz@linkline.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 15:50:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 99290 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 15:44:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 15:44:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mo.egroups.com) (10.1.1.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 15:44:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: topaz@linkline.com Received: from [10.1.2.225] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 15:44:10 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 15:44:09 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Still wondering about '... Message-ID: <95c089+61jg@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20010201120038.A17013@ljm.qqjane.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 861 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 63.205.141.74 From: "David Scriven" But the Reference Grammar (Chapter 3) specifically says it _is_=20 pronounced like an [h]. Here are some quotes: << ' [h] a unvoiced glottal spirant >> << The apostrophe represents a phoneme similar to a short, breathy=20 English ``h'', (IPA [h]). >>=20 .deiv. --- In lojban@y..., Lin Zhemin wrote: > A single pause between two vowels, i.e. try to distinguish > time and ta'im (N.B. time would be transcripted as 'thai~m' as > ta'im is 'tha?im', where ? is a short pause and is not a glottal=20 stop.) >=20 >=20 > Wed, 31 Jan 2001, la Robin Lee Powell(rlpowell@c...) cusku di'e > > If it's not supposed to sound like h, what _is_ it supposed to=20 sound > > like? >=20 > --=20 >=20 > =A5=CD=A6=BA=AB=B4=C1=EF=A1A=BBP=A4l=A6=A8=BB=A1=A1F=B0=F5=A4l=A4=A7=A4= =E2=A1A=BBP=A4l=B0=BA=A6=D1=A1C > Fingerprint20 =3D CE32 D237 02C0 FE31 FEA9 B858 DE8F AE2D D810 F2D9