From ljm@ljm.qqjane.net Thu Feb 01 18:21:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ljm@ljm.qqjane.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 02:20:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 1642 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 02:10:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 02:10:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ljm.qqjane.net) (211.21.57.29) by mta3 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 03:11:41 -0000 Received: (from ljm@localhost) by ljm.qqjane.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f122AKR19185; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:10:20 +0800 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:10:20 +0800 To: John Cowan Cc: pycyn@aol.com, lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] RE: apostrophic fits Message-ID: <20010202101019.A19157@ljm.qqjane.net> References: <20010202010612.A18478@ljm.qqjane.net> <3A79A4D4.4010805@reutershealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A79A4D4.4010805@reutershealth.com>; from jcowan@reutershealth.com on Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:03:00PM -0500 From: Lin Zhemin Thu, 01 Feb 2001, la John Cowan(jcowan@reutershealth.com) cusku di'e > But no, Lojban "'" cannot be a pause; in fact, pauses cannot exist > within Lojban words (writing conventions like "na.a" is really > two words). I'm really confused now. In the draft text book, it is defined as a sound similar to English /h/. And we know English /h/ is transcribed as [h] (not always but often). So that we know the apostroph sign sounds like [h]. But in the RefGram it is not like but is [h]... Really confused. > In Mandarin, yes; in Lojban, no. There are other allophones of > Lojban "x", like [X], but [h] is not one of them. What are the other allophones of _x_ ? -- Mes hommages et mes sentiments de tristesse aux peuples de l'Inde. Fingerprint20 = CE32 D237 02C0 FE31 FEA9 B858 DE8F AE2D D810 F2D9