From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sun Feb 11 07:55:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 11 Feb 2001 15:55:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 56378 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2001 15:55:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2001 15:55:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.142) by mta3 with SMTP; 11 Feb 2001 16:56:08 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 07:55:03 -0800 Received: from 200.41.247.54 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:55:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.54] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Imaginary worlds (was su'u) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:55:03 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Feb 2001 15:55:03.0637 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF2E9850:01C09442] From: "Jorge Llambias" la djan cusku di'e >But I am not talking about a possible world in which T was changed >to plastic, but a possible world (or is it possible?) in which >T has *always* been plastic while being the self-same table. >I contend that this world is *not* possible. I fail to see why that world is not possible whereas a world in which T has always been black while being the self-same table is possible. If it was never changed to black, how could it be the same brown table? At some point someone had to decide whether they used black or brown paint, just as at some point someone had to decide whether to use wood or plastic. Is the paint contingent because it comes at the end of the process of making the table, and the material essential because it comes at an earlier stage? co'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.