From cowan@ccil.org Sun Feb 11 15:41:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 11 Feb 2001 23:41:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 97677 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2001 23:41:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2001 23:41:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta3 with SMTP; 12 Feb 2001 00:42:45 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14S67u-0002Er-00; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:41:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [lojban] Imaginary worlds (was su'u) In-Reply-To: from Jorge Llambias at "Feb 11, 2001 03:55:03 pm" To: Jorge Llambias Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:41:54 -0500 (EST) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan Jorge Llambias scripsit: > I fail to see why that world is not possible whereas a world > in which T has always been black while being the self-same > table is possible. If it was never changed to black, how > could it be the same brown table? At some point someone had > to decide whether they used black or brown paint, just as > at some point someone had to decide whether to use wood or > plastic. Ah, I wasn't clear. The brown is the natural color of the wood; the black is not. So it is the same table though wrapped in a skin of black paint. I agree that if you consider T to be painted brown, then your argument holds. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org One art/there is/no less/no more/All things/to do/with sparks/galore --Douglas Hofstadter