From cowan@ccil.org Sun Feb 11 19:04:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 12 Feb 2001 03:04:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 92314 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2001 03:04:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2001 03:04:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta2 with SMTP; 12 Feb 2001 03:04:54 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14S9Id-00053K-00; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:05:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [lojban] RE: imaginary worlds etc. In-Reply-To: <59.6bf082b.27b891d4@aol.com> from "pycyn@aol.com" at "Feb 11, 2001 08:09:40 pm" To: pycyn@aol.com Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:05:11 -0500 (EST) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan pycyn@aol.com scripsit: > > True, but to the point, perfect foreknowledge does imply the lack of choice. I meant to say "choice", not "causation". The point of the envelope example was to show that even though I foreknew that you would take the $1 mil instead of drinking the battery acid, your choice was perfectly unconstrained by me. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org One art/there is/no less/no more/All things/to do/with sparks/galore --Douglas Hofstadter