From xod@sixgirls.org Mon Feb 12 11:20:12 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@erika.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 12 Feb 2001 19:19:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 27058 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2001 19:19:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2001 19:19:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO erika.sixgirls.org) (209.208.150.50) by mta1 with SMTP; 12 Feb 2001 19:19:49 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by erika.sixgirls.org (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1CJJmm11556 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:19:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:19:47 -0500 (EST) To: Subject: Re: [lojban] More damn imaginary world stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, michael helsem wrote: > >From: Invent Yourself > li'o > > > >physics > > > involves a logical contradiction.> > > > No. It may be that any deviation from the actual laws of physics (known > >and > > > unknown) is physically impoossible -- that no world could actually exist > >in > > > any other way -- but that is far from LOGICAL impossibility, that the > >laws > > > imply, in themselves, a contradiction. > > > > > > >Are you saying that it is impossible that the laws of physics are arranged > >such that any other arrangement requires a logical contradiction? Can you > >show me an alternate arrangement that is logically consistent? Since we > >don't have our complete picture yet, we are not yet sure if any other > >alternate arrangements are logically possible. > > > > IIRC, there was somebody who reformulated the existing "physical > laws" according to INFORMATION rather than energy, in the 70's (i > blush to admit i read this in Analog); being tautological & a pain > in the gizzard to think in terms of, it never caught on: but this shows that > another Physics than the one we know, is indeed possible in this same > universe... du'e da poi na'e fadni ke sidbo ciste .i ku'i ze'e na mapti le fatci ----- We do not like And if a cat those Rs and Ds, needed a hat? Who can't resist Free enterprise more subsidies. is there for that!