From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Tue Feb 13 07:09:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 13 Feb 2001 15:09:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 19570 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2001 15:09:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Feb 2001 15:09:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 Feb 2001 15:08:48 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:52:07 +0000 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:08:21 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:07:48 +0000 To: jcowan Cc: lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] Imaginary worlds (was su'u) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta jOHN: #And Rosta wrote: #> Is the Statue of Liberty made of marble? # #Well, perhaps in a possible world in which marble, rather than being #calcium carbonate, is in fact copper. O that's right; I'd forgotten it's green. #> My (excellent) answer is that it 99% is; i.e. it satisfies 99% #> of criteria for SoL-hood (including having no close rivals #> for SoLhood), but falls down on the "made of marble" #> criterion. # #Well, I would rather say that it is the *counterpart* of the #S of L, but not the same as it. I have no problem with that. I don't want to say that the granite SoL is the same as the RealWorld SoL; I want to say that the RW SoL has 100% SoLhood and the granite SoL has '95%' SoLhood. Indeed the two SoLs are counterparts, but the rationale for their being counterparts is their relatively high scores on SoLhood. #Question: Suppose that Barbara Bush had dedicated herself to #raising puppies rather than children. Would you be willing #to have a p.w. in which the President of the United States #was (even 95%) a black Labrador? I certainly would not, but I would be willing to have a world in which the primary candidate for GWhood is a black labrador. In the RW, nobody has 100% HenryHiggins-hood, but nonetheless Daniel Jones is the primary candidate for HenryHiggins-hood. (HH from Pygmalion, DJ first professor of phonetics at University College London.) --And.