From nicholas@uci.edu Tue Feb 20 23:54:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: nicholas@uci.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Feb 2001 07:54:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 38669 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 07:54:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2001 07:54:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO e4e.oac.uci.edu) (128.200.222.10) by mta2 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 07:54:38 -0000 Received: from [128.195.187.85] (dialin53c-75.ppp.uci.edu [128.195.187.85]) by e4e.oac.uci.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20042 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:54:36 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: nicholas@e4e.oac.uci.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010216215932.00af0130@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:02:05 -0800 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] nilbroda From: Nick Nicholas >From: Peter Moulder >Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 19:06:41 +1100 (EST) >What about "variadic" selbri like "(nil)du"? How does one know whether >the last sumti belongs to ni or du? Ouch. Very good point. You either (a) give up and don't admit nildu'o as a lujvo (which is no good); (b) make nildu'o an exception, and have the ni2 precede the arguments of du'o --- which leads to untold confusion; (c) leave it as it stands, which is disastrous. One would say at this point that usage and context would always sort this out. To which I answer that if I want English, I know where to find it. If a lujvo has an ambiguous place structure, it has no business being a lujvo. (Which would, if anything, go back to (a).) I knew there was a reason I wanted those ni2 and traji4 in second position. Oh well. .i .ua ko seka'i mi rinsa lemi gugde Nick Nicholas, Thesaurus Linguae Graecae. nicholas@uci.edu www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis "All the nations also under his dominion were filled with joy and inexpressible gladness at not being even for a moment deprived of the benefits of a well ordered government." --- Eusebius of Caesaria on the accession of Constantine I.