From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Wed Feb 21 09:05:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Feb 2001 17:05:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 14860 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 17:03:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2001 17:03:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 17:03:21 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:46:27 +0000 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:03:01 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:02:47 +0000 To: graywyvern , lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] RE: Orcutt (again?!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta Michael, there's something weird about your message formatting such that th= e message totally vanishes if I view it as plain text, and I can't copy it, and it va= nishes from my replies. Admittedly my software is a load of shite called Novell Groupwise,= which I'd urge everyone to avoid like the plague (tho if anyone is expert in this sof= tware I'd love to hear from them), but I still think that part of the problem is with= your messages. At any rate, in reply to you, surely DJUNO =3D savoir and SE SLABU =3D conn= aitre, not the other way around. In general when discussing logical distinctions I= 'm reluctant to sweep it under the carpet by simply defining appropriate lujvo= , but in this case you may be right that the difference between knowing what = CAT=20 means and knowing about cats is related to the savoir/connaitre difference. Still, I remain to be convinced, and it is perfectly possible (and in fact = true) that ASH and EPAMINONDAS are words that are familiar (se slabu) to me yet t= hat have meanings that I know only a small incomplete and inadequate portion of= . --And.