From xod@xxxx.xxxx Tue Mar 30 11:24:47 1999 X-Digest-Num: 100 Message-ID: <44114.100.555.959273824@eGroups.com> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:24:47 -0500 (EST) From: xod From: Robin Turner > > la xorxes cusku di'e > > > > > i no'i ca'a zasti fa loi fetsi tadni be la lojban i ku'i ra > > jikte'amli gi'enai sezyjarco > > This applies to most e-mail lists, which tend to have a "masculine" (note > scare quotes) discourse style (for more on gender and discourse, see Robin > Lakoff and/or Deborah Tannen). However, dialogue on the Lojban list isn't > nearly as bad in this respect as many others - at least we have no flame > wars here! > > I was wondering if the overall image of Lojban might also be off-putting, > which gets us back to the "logical language" point. There is an (illogical) > association in many cultures along the lines of logic-male / emotion-female, > which may result in Lojban having a bit of a "masculine" image, or a desexed > Mr. Spock-like one (for more of my thoughts on gender and logic, see > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/8309/malelogic.html ). However, I > don't think the answer to this problem is to try and present Lojban in a > more "touchy-feely" way (though one could) but to challenge those ideas in > society at large. We certainly could present Lojban as the "emotional language", what with all those attitudinals. Considering that males and females are the way they are right now, perhaps exploration of this side might be worth looking in to. Aren't we attracting logical types primarily right now? People with a love or ability for heavy symbol processing, refugees from English because it is too ambiguous -- not because it is not expressive enough! > > co'o mi'e robin. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Did you know that we have over 85,000 e-mail communities at Onelist? > http://www.onelist.com > Come visit our new web site and explore a new interest > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com > ----- I've detected a vast, multi-wing conspiracy to provide me with Slack. They can't fool me!!