From jcowan@reutershealth.com Wed Feb 21 09:27:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Feb 2001 17:27:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 76242 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 17:26:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2001 17:26:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta2 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 17:26:46 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[192.168.3.11]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/0.0.0) with ESMTP id MAA20038; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:28:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A93FA67.1080600@reutershealth.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:27:03 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686; en-US; 0.7) Gecko/20010119 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: And Rosta , lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] RE: Orcutt (again?!) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan And Rosta wrote: > Still, I remain to be convinced, and it is perfectly possible (and in fact true) > that ASH and EPAMINONDAS are words that are familiar (se slabu) to me yet that > have meanings that I know only a small incomplete and inadequate portion of. BTW, the canonical Kripke example of this is FEYNMAN and GELL-MANN. One may know that FEYNMAN refers to a famous physicist, and yet be completely unable to distinguish him from the referent of GELL-MANN by any specific properties (other than the trivial ones "named F." and "named G.-M."). Nevertheless one then knows that Feynman is not Gell-Mann. IMAO, an Englishman who doesn't know Oak, Ash, and Thorn had better rectify himself at once. As an aid to this, here are some pictures: http://sunsite.sut.ac.jp/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/pictures/e-i/fraxinus-excelsior-1.jpg http://sunsite.sut.ac.jp/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/pictures/e-i/fraxinus-excelsior.jpg http://sunsite.sut.ac.jp/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/pictures/e-i/fraxinus-excelsior-2.jpg This particular ash tree is somewhere in London, presumably in a park. -- There is / one art || John Cowan no more / no less || http://www.reutershealth.com to do / all things || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan with art- / lessness \\ -- Piet Hein