From lojbab@lojban.org Sun Feb 25 18:09:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 26 Feb 2001 02:09:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 512 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2001 02:09:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 Feb 2001 02:09:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-2.cais.net) (205.252.14.72) by mta3 with SMTP; 26 Feb 2001 03:10:13 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (10.dynamic.cais.com [207.226.56.10]) by stmpy-2.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1Q297d73593 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:09:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010225210746.00b64100@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:12:35 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] nilbroda In-Reply-To: <01022520392005.19379@neofelis> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010222185345.00b9a4e0@127.0.0.1> <4.3.2.7.2.20010221150126.00b6d280@127.0.0.1> <4.3.2.7.2.20010216215932.00af0130@127.0.0.1> <4.3.2.7.2.20010222185345.00b9a4e0@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 08:37 PM 02/25/2001 -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote: >It's still not clear to me. For a non-variadic nilbroda, what is the >convention? Should I go by the reference grammar, which puts ni2 at the >end, or >the dictionary, which puts it second? The answer is that you get to decide for yourself. The reference grammar states a non-binding convention. The draft dictionary contains some attempts to define words, but those attempts are not "baselined" and in fact have for the most part never been reviewed for consistency with the rules. (Nora started once, but found after several hundred words that her understandings of the rules was changing and that thus her analysis was inconsistent - she has not had time to start over again.) If usage clearly points towards one approach or the other, then probably that approach will tend to predominate in the final dictionary, because usage trumps theory with respect to dictionary word meanings. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org