From iad@MATH.BAS.BG Thu Mar 01 23:32:48 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: iad@math.bas.bg X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 2 Mar 2001 07:32:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 20803 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2001 07:32:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Mar 2001 07:32:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lnd.internet-bg.net) (212.124.64.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 2 Mar 2001 07:32:46 -0000 Received: from math.bas.bg (ppp27.internet-bg.net [212.124.66.27]) by lnd.internet-bg.net (8.11.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id f227cHc26495 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:38:18 +0200 Message-ID: <3A9F3298.F801FC08@math.bas.bg> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:41:44 +0200 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Meaningless talk References: <78.1135cd7e.27d06517@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ivan A Derzhanski Quoth pycyn@aol.com: > Not that I can take my own advice, but [...] I would recommend > that we all (or most of us anyhow) go back to "See Spot run" > and work our way up very slowly before we get around to doing > to philosophical or linguistic discussions in Lojban. Okay. What about _See Spot run_? It is one of the most opaque constructions of Modern English; translating it into another lg is no trivial matter. Try a few natlangs that you are familiar with, and you'll see what I mean. --Ivan