From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sun Mar 11 12:02:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 11 Mar 2001 20:01:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 97426 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2001 20:01:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Mar 2001 20:01:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.145) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 Mar 2001 20:01:59 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:01:58 -0800 Received: from 200.41.247.35 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:01:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.35] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Regional difference ?? Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:01:58 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2001 20:01:58.0997 (UTC) FILETIME=[21642050:01C0AA66] From: "Jorge Llambias" > "I just about caught the train." I'm not sure what that means, but how do we say in Lojban "I barely caught the train" and "I almost caught the train"? I think {jibni} could work for "almost": mi pu jibni le nu litru fi le trene "I was close to travelling by train." Of course this closeness is in "possible world" space, so someone might object to this form of expression. (As an aside, I was very tempted to use {kavbu} for "catch", which is obviously wrong, but {litru} is hardly what is meant. How do we say "catch the train". Something with {snada}?) As for "barely", one way is to use the negative: mi pu jibni le nu na litru fi le trene "I was close to not travelling by train." But that is not very satisfactory, there has to be a way of asserting it directly. Maybe something like: mi pu nerjitla'i le nu litru fi le trene "I was next to the inner border of travelling by train." Any other ideas? co'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.