From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sun Mar 11 18:06:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 12 Mar 2001 02:06:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 42429 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2001 02:06:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Mar 2001 02:06:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.240.159) by mta2 with SMTP; 12 Mar 2001 02:06:58 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:06:57 -0800 Received: from 200.41.210.6 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 02:06:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.210.6] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Catching a bus Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 02:06:57 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2001 02:06:57.0856 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E20D400:01C0AA99] From: "Jorge Llambias" la pycyn cusku di'e >On the whole I think that the termination of the process >is more illuminating here, although the whole process could be seen as the >inchoative aspect of the state. So we would have: mi mo'u pu'o se marce le trene "I completed being about to ride the train." >Supposing this this problem were solved, with "trainri" as a placeholder >for >now, the process catching a train could be either "trainrygau" or >"trainryzu'e." mi mi selma'egau le trene I make myself ride the train. Yes, that could work. Although it could also mean other things... >"I just barely caught the bus" means that the completive aspect of the >catching overlaps the inchoative aspect of the train's departure; "I almost >caught the bus" means that the process overreaches the initiative aspect >the >departure. I don't think we can deal with these overlaps in any simple way. The train's departure is not something we would be mentioning. co'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.