From graywyvern@hotmail.com Mon Mar 12 08:37:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: graywyvern@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 12 Mar 2001 16:37:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 93610 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2001 16:37:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Mar 2001 16:37:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.237.208) by mta1 with SMTP; 12 Mar 2001 16:37:26 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:37:26 -0800 Received: from 209.176.48.50 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:37:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.176.48.50] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: "barely caught/missed the train" Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:37:25 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2001 16:37:26.0101 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8969050:01C0AB12] From: "michael helsem" TRENE NERKLA or RENKEMNERKLA = to board a train (further action implied) TRENE NERKLA BANZU = sufficiently to board a train (i.e. only just) TRENE NERKLA NARBANZU = insufficiently...(i.e. not quite) TRENE NERKLA BANZU BE'UNAIRU'E = (more explicitly) only just... TRENE NERKLA NARBANZU BE'UNAISAI = " " not quite... TRENE .UO = (abbreviated) made the train TRENE .UONAI = " didn't make it TRENE .UORU'E = " barely made it TRENE .UONAISAI = " barely missed it i rather think in actual practice, words like SELTSE & (NA) ZUKTE will be used. SELTSE NARZUKTE JIBNI condensed to TSEJBI .UU ; you only talk about a TRENE when it's important to emphasize: ...to x2...from x3...via x4...in system x5, as opposed to a LITRU: ...via route x2...using x3; or other VELKLA. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com