From pycyn@aol.com Mon Mar 12 17:22:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 13 Mar 2001 01:22:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 59027 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2001 01:22:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Mar 2001 01:22:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m04.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.7) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Mar 2001 02:23:12 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.69.125d9f26 (17080) for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:22:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <69.125d9f26.27ded038@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:22:00 EST Subject: Re: [lojban] I almost caught the train To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_69.125d9f26.27ded038_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10501 From: pycyn@aol.com --part1_69.125d9f26.27ded038_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/12/2001 6:00:28 PM Central Standard Time, lojban@lojban.org writes: > digits, the first of which is large.> > Ambigous: "there is no grammar for numbers. Therefore, panono is a string of four digits, the first of which is large. The first part of this is false, I hope, and the second in this context, seems to mean there cannot be grammatical numbers more than a digit long, especially if the first is large(r than the rest?). "No part of the grammar of numbers allows a number to be a string of digits, if the first is large" I suppose "large" in both these cases means something special, in this case PA4? Somehow, I had the notion that "at least 100" was {su'o panono} I now gather that it is {panono su'o}. So, "almost 100" is going to be {panono so'a} <>I have no suggestion for "barely over 100" off the top of mu head. panoso'u> But then {panonosu'o} means "a whole lot more than a thousand" or some such, and the other PA+PA4 get really weird. I'm lost. What does "all except 9" or "almost 9" have to do with the cases and what does? What does "all except all except" have to do with base n? and -100 with anything. Except that they all show that the PA4s go at the right end. Sensible. It should be on the list someday soon. --part1_69.125d9f26.27ded038_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/12/2001 6:00:28 PM Central Standard Time,
lojban@lojban.org writes:



<There is no grammar for numbers so that is a string of 4
digits, the first of which is large.>



Ambigous:  "there is no grammar for numbers.  Therefore, panono is a string
of four digits, the first of which is large.  The first part of this is
false, I hope, and the second in this context, seems to mean there cannot be
grammatical numbers more than a digit long, especially if the first is
large(r than the rest?).
"No part of the grammar of numbers allows a number to be a string of digits,
if the first is large"  I suppose "large" in both these cases means something
special, in this case PA4?
Somehow, I had the notion that "at least 100" was {su'o panono}  I now gather
that it is {panono su'o}.  So, "almost 100" is going to be {panono so'a}

<>I have no suggestion for "barely over 100" off the top of mu head.

panoso'u>
But then {panonosu'o} means "a whole lot more than a thousand" or some such,
and the other PA+PA4 get really weird.

<soso'a or even soda'a

or if you want the base n solution, da'ada'a

I might also try panononi'u,>
I'm lost.  What does "all except 9" or "almost 9" have to do with the cases
and what does?  What does "all except all except" have to do with base n?  
and -100 with anything.  Except that they all show that the PA4s go at the
right end.

<You don't ride a train, you ride a train-car.>
Sensible.  It should be on the list someday soon.
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