From jjllambias@hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 19:45:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 14 Mar 2001 03:45:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 43305 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2001 03:45:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Mar 2001 03:45:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.46) by mta2 with SMTP; 14 Mar 2001 03:45:01 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:45:00 -0800 Received: from 200.41.247.58 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 03:45:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.58] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] I almost caught the train Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 03:45:00 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2001 03:45:00.0411 (UTC) FILETIME=[253AFCB0:01C0AC39] From: "Jorge Llambias" la djan cusku di'e >How is this different from "I was on the verge of sleeping when >I got the idea"? I wouldn't infer from that that you didn't >go to sleep! The phrase can be taken both ways. If you interpret it as "I was on the verge of sleeping when, all of a sudden, I got the idea", then the sleeping did not take place, it was interrupted by the idea. Obviously I went to sleep eventually but that would be a new event, not the one I had been on the verge of. On the other hand, if all you are doing is responding to the question "when did you get the idea?" then yes, the verge of sleeping might be taken as just a reference point. co'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.