From jjllambias@hotmail.com Thu Mar 15 18:59:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 16 Mar 2001 02:59:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 93890 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2001 02:58:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Mar 2001 02:58:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.240.75) by mta1 with SMTP; 16 Mar 2001 02:58:54 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:40:19 -0800 Received: from 200.41.210.7 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:40:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.210.7] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Some questions Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:40:19 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2001 02:40:19.0317 (UTC) FILETIME=[70BE8A50:01C0ADC2] From: "Jorge Llambias" la avital cusku di'e >a) Regarding be/bei/be'o. I don't quite understand why bei is needed. Why >can't it be defined that be understood as "what >fills the place for '_______ cu SELBRI TEXT'", and sumti are separated the >'standard' way in a normal bridi That would make {be'o} never elidable. With the current grammar it usually is elidable. >b) After starting to teach Lojban to some friends, they all shouted out >that "This goddamn 'y' letter is all fucked-up. My feelings precisely. >Anyone have any explanations? Speakers of 5-vowel languages were not consulted at the time... >c) The use of pe with tense modifiers. I do not understand the grammer >behind . This seems idiotic, or at least 'forcing the >meaning' into the phrase. Isn't a sumti supposed to some after pe? And if >not, what is the exact way of understanding the meaning? Do you mean {le prenu pe pu ku}? {puku} is a term, it can be attached to a sumti using {pe} like any other term. It would mean "the person associated with the past (of something, usually the past of now)". co'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.