From biomass@hobbiton.org Fri Mar 16 06:26:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: biomass@hobbiton.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 16 Mar 2001 14:26:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 89843 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2001 14:26:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Mar 2001 14:26:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO elrond.hobbiton.org) (216.161.236.97) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Mar 2001 15:28:01 -0000 Received: from hobbiton.org (biomass@thorin.hobbiton.org [216.161.236.98]) by elrond.hobbiton.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2GEPsq24011 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:25:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (biomass@localhost) by hobbiton.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2GEPd116287 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:25:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:25:39 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: biomass@thorin To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Some questions In-Reply-To: <0103152108340W.05701@neofelis> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Avital Oliver > When you say "tiqtlu", do you stick a sheva' between "q" and "t" or between "t" > and "l"? Try using that for "y". The "a" in "ball", as I pronounce it, is not > the Lojban "a", but somewhere between "a" and "o". I'm guessing you mean for "tiqtlu", for which I pronounce it as tiq/te/LOO. In modern hebrew, there is no difference between a shva na, a zire, and a segol. > My Hebrew pronunciation is probably not the same as yours, but here's my > attempt: You pronouce the same way I do. > I told a brojbe "tlat `alim, tlat 'alim" and had to explain it because she did > not hear my distinction between 'aleph and `ayin. I also distinguish chet from > khaf and tet from tav. But I usually pronounce consonantal vav and bhet the > same (they were distinguished in Septuagint times, but fell together by New > Testament times) and don't know how to distinguish samekh from sin. The average Israeli would probably laugh at you .u'i. Good day, \Avital.