From jjllambias@hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 14:16:37 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 16 Mar 2001 22:16:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 61364 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2001 22:16:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Mar 2001 22:16:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.112) by mta2 with SMTP; 16 Mar 2001 22:16:36 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:16:36 -0800 Received: from 200.41.210.18 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:16:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.210.18] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Some questions Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:16:35 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2001 22:16:36.0098 (UTC) FILETIME=[C3C8AE20:01C0AE66] From: "Jorge Llambias" la lojbab cusku di'e > >Speakers of 5-vowel languages were not consulted at the time... > >Not directly, though JCB was purportedly fluent in Spanish having lived on >Ibeza for several years. Yes, Loglan has a much more noticeable Spanish influence than Lojban. But JCB was an English native speaker, so of course had no trouble with a sixth vowel. >But we did consult linguists and polyglots (who >were skilled in several languages including Tommy W. who was trained in >Modern Hebrew), and the consensus was that the best sixth vowel after a >five vowel system would have to be the central one, which unstressed (as it >always is in Lojban) is a schwa. Maybe it was the best sixth, but you should have stopped at 5. co'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.