From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 20:19:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 19 Mar 2001 04:19:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 14370 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 04:19:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 Mar 2001 04:19:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.66) by mta3 with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 05:20:25 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:19:20 -0800 Received: from 200.41.210.17 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 04:19:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.210.17] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Knowledge (was: Random lojban questions/annoyances Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 04:19:20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2001 04:19:20.0853 (UTC) FILETIME=[C56A3C50:01C0B02B] From: "Jorge Llambias" la xod cusku di'e > > Why strange? > >Because I can't objectively report on Steve's knowledge without adding my >own interpretation into it. You can report on his knowledge, but you wouldn't call "knowledge" his mistaken beliefs, even if he does call it knowledge. Just as you don't call them truths even though he does call them truths. >That makes the meaning of my use of >"knowledge" reflect the sum of my opinions + Steve's opinions. Shouldn't I >be able to say "Steve djuno you are a Koala Bear", even if we know (feel) >he's wrong? So you want {djuno} to be synonimous with {jinvi} or with {birti}? Why have the word at all? >Is there any other Lojban word that automatically inserts the judgements >of every narrator? Every single Lojban word automatically inserts the judgments of the narrator. Which word doesn't? co'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.