From xod@sixgirls.org Sun Mar 18 20:43:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@shiva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 19 Mar 2001 04:43:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 45159 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 04:43:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2001 04:43:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO shiva.sixgirls.org) (206.252.141.232) by mta2 with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 04:43:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by shiva.sixgirls.org (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2J4K1810237 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:20:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:20:01 -0500 (EST) To: Subject: Re: [lojban] Knowledge (was: Random lojban questions/annoyances.) In-Reply-To: <20010318234050.H3953@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 10:54:45PM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 10:01:52PM -0500, SwiftRain wrote: > > > > John Cowan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > True. But when it changes, we deny that what we used to believe was, > > > > > in fact, knowledge. > > > > > > > > .i sruma le du'u ro jitfa selkrici ku na seldjuno kei ku zo'u > > > > no seldjuno cu zasti pe'i > > > > > > I'm sorry, that doesn't parse, and my understanding of the language is > > > not up to the task of deconstructing it. Can you re-state? > > > > > > e'u zo ru'a basti zo sruma > > Still doesn't parse. It's zo'u that's the issue. Give the software a rest and read with your soul. Where's the fun if Lojban is nothing but a glorified ROT13? Think of "zo'u" as "such that". However, I read it as a nonsequitur. > > > > .i ro selkrici cu jitfa .i se'o le prane nu jimpe cu na cumki .iare'e > > > > > > > > > .i ro selkrici cu jitfa no da > > How can 'no da' be a standard of falsity? da means "There exists a...". Thus, the sentence means "There exists no standard/epistemology/metaphysics such that every belief is false." > > -Robin > > -- > http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. > Information wants to be free. Too bad most of it is crap. --RLP > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ----- We do not like And if a cat those Rs and Ds, needed a hat? Who can't resist Free enterprise more subsidies. is there for that!