Subject: Re: [lojban] Knowledge (was: Random lojban questions/annoyances

From: "Jorge Llambias" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 04:43:26

la xod cusku di'e

> > So you want {djuno} to be synonimous with {jinvi} or with {birti}?
> > Why have the word at all?
>
>birti seems like malglico, subsumable under jinvi.

But some opinions are held with more certainty than others,
{birti} is useful to make that distinction.

>But why bother djuno,
>since it is only a superposition of krici + tugni?

krici + jetnu really. {ko'a djuno ko'e} => {ko'a krici ko'e}
& {ko'e jetnu}.

But Lojban gismu are not supposed to be a minimal set.
There are many superpositions that occur often or were
considered useful for some reason.

> > Every single Lojban word automatically inserts the judgments of
> > the narrator. Which word doesn't?
>
>krici doesn't.

It certainly does. If you say that A believes B you are making
a judgment.

>It reports on the objective facts. So does tugni. But djuno
>sneaks the narrator's biases in there quietly.

I don't see any special bias sneaking in with djuno. Nothing
that doesn't sneak in with jetnu.

co'o mi'e xorxes

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