From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 20:54:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 19 Mar 2001 04:54:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 51239 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 04:54:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2001 04:54:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.114) by mta3 with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 05:56:02 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:54:57 -0800 Received: from 200.41.210.17 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 04:54:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.210.17] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Knowledge (was: Random lojban questions/annoyances.) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 04:54:57 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2001 04:54:57.0848 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF29CB80:01C0B030] From: "Jorge Llambias" la xod cusku di'e > > > > > .i sruma le du'u ro jitfa selkrici ku na seldjuno kei ku zo'u > > > > > no seldjuno cu zasti pe'i > >Give the software a rest and read with your soul. Where's the fun if >Lojban is nothing but a glorified ROT13? Think of "zo'u" as "such that". >However, I read it as a nonsequitur. {zo'u} is more like a ":" He meant (I presume): Assuming that every false belief is not knowledge: no knowledge exists. > > > .i ro selkrici cu jitfa no da > >da means "There exists a...". Thus, the sentence means "There exists no >standard/epistemology/metaphysics such that every belief is false." Actually, as written it says: For every belief x, there is no standard by which x is false. What you meant (I presume) is: i no da cu se jitfa ro selkrici There is no standard such that every belief is false by it. co'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.