From rlpowell@csclub.uwaterloo.ca Sun Mar 18 21:17:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 19 Mar 2001 05:17:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 9478 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 05:17:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2001 05:17:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca) (129.97.134.11) by mta3 with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 06:18:07 -0000 Received: (from rlpowell@localhost) by calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA22039 for lojban@onelist.com; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:23:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:23:50 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Knowledge (was: Random lojban questions/annoyances.) Message-ID: <20010319002349.J3953@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@onelist.com References: <20010318234050.H3953@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from xod@sixgirls.org on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 11:20:01PM -0500 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 11:20:01PM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote: > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 10:54:45PM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote: > > > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 10:01:52PM -0500, SwiftRain wrote: > > > > > John Cowan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > True. But when it changes, we deny that what we used to believe was, > > > > > > in fact, knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > .i sruma le du'u ro jitfa selkrici ku na seldjuno kei ku zo'u > > > > > no seldjuno cu zasti pe'i > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, that doesn't parse, and my understanding of the language is > > > > not up to the task of deconstructing it. Can you re-state? > > > > > > > > > e'u zo ru'a basti zo sruma > > > > Still doesn't parse. It's zo'u that's the issue. > > > Give the software a rest and read with your soul. I've been _trying_ to!! But this was just beyond me. > > > > > .i ro selkrici cu jitfa .i se'o le prane nu jimpe cu na cumki .iare'e > > > > > > > > > > > > > .i ro selkrici cu jitfa no da > > > > How can 'no da' be a standard of falsity? > > > > da means "There exists a...". Thus, the sentence means "There exists no > standard/epistemology/metaphysics such that every belief is false." Doh. Of course. Thanks. -Robin -- http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. Information wants to be free. Too bad most of it is crap. --RLP