From cowan@ccil.org Mon Mar 19 00:15:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 19 Mar 2001 08:15:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 13912 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 08:15:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 Mar 2001 08:15:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta1 with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 08:15:51 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14euq5-0000r5-00; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 03:16:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [lojban] Random lojban questions/annoyances. In-Reply-To: <20010318230736.A3953@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> from Robin Lee Powell at "Mar 18, 2001 11:07:36 pm" To: Robin Lee Powell Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 03:16:29 -0500 (EST) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan Robin Lee Powell scripsit: > Nothing! I think that is exactly right and true and acceptable. But > the freaking _definition_ of the lojban language says that stating > something that is not true as the x2 of djuno is incorrect use of the > language! No, it says that statements that use a false statement as the x2 of djuno are *false*, not incorrect use of the language. Falsity of the inner bridi entails falsity of the outer bridi, not ungrammaticality of the outer bridi. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org One art/there is/no less/no more/All things/to do/with sparks/galore --Douglas Hofstadter