From pycyn@aol.com Mon Mar 19 12:03:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 19 Mar 2001 20:03:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 61406 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 20:03:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2001 20:03:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m08.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.163) by mta2 with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 20:03:03 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.ea.12e96f31 (4462) for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:02:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:02:46 EST Subject: Re: Knowledge {djuno} To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ea.12e96f31.27e7bfe6_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10501 From: pycyn@aol.com --part1_ea.12e96f31.27e7bfe6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry I missed the opening rounds of this year's {djuno} row, but I see that all the moves have been made on schedule and correctly. The transitivity moves looked new but soon collapsed under the old problem about false claims. I will only add two notes (NOT worth a penny a pop) 1. Even if the definition of "know" does not include the word "true," it does include the word "fact" to describe what is known. I hope whoever started this line is not now going to claim there are false facts. 2. Despite the intended irony, I am mildly offended by aulun's suggestion that German, a language with a short and rather disastrous history of philosophical writing, should be called philosophical, while English, with a longer and more successful history in the field, should be said not to be (with the exception of the latter part of the 19th century, German philosophy was mainly borrowed, inaccurately, from English or French and then carried to unjustified extremes). --part1_ea.12e96f31.27e7bfe6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry I missed the opening rounds of this year's {djuno} row, but I see that
all the moves have been made on schedule and correctly.  The transitivity
moves looked new but soon collapsed under the old problem about false claims.
 I will only add two notes (NOT worth a penny a pop)
1.  Even if the definition of "know" does not include the word "true,"  it
does include the word "fact" to describe what is known.  I hope whoever
started this line is not now going to claim there are false facts.
2.  Despite the intended irony, I am mildly offended by aulun's suggestion
that German, a language with a short and rather disastrous history of
philosophical writing, should be called philosophical, while English, with a
longer and more successful history in the field, should be said not to be
(with the exception of the latter part of the 19th century, German philosophy
was mainly borrowed, inaccurately, from English or French and then carried to
unjustified extremes). --part1_ea.12e96f31.27e7bfe6_boundary--