From xod@sixgirls.org Mon Mar 19 12:15:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@shiva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 19 Mar 2001 20:15:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 12899 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 20:15:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2001 20:15:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO shiva.sixgirls.org) (206.252.141.232) by mta3 with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 21:16:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by shiva.sixgirls.org (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2JJqBo12552 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:52:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:52:11 -0500 (EST) To: Subject: Re: [lojban] re: djuno [was: random lojban annoyance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, michael helsem wrote: > Let's keep LA .UEBSTR. out of this... What's chiefly > distinguished in Lojban is the amount of sumti places that > semantically similar words use. Off the top of my head i can > think of five (plus JIJNU if you accept intuitive knowledge). > > One with two places: > > BIRTI- x1 is certain/sure/positive/convinced that x2 is true. (Meant to > contrast with SENPI, i'm sure.) More elegantly expressed as lujvo of jinvi or djuno. > Two with three places: > KRICI- x1 believes [without evidence] that belief/creed x2 (du'u) is > true/assumed about subject x3. What the heck does "without evidence" mean? Nobody believes anything without evidence. That their evidence is flimsy to another person is a separate issue. ----- We do not like And if a cat those Rs and Ds, needed a hat? Who can't resist Free enterprise more subsidies. is there for that!