From xod@sixgirls.org Mon Mar 19 13:34:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@shiva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 19 Mar 2001 21:34:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 29777 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 21:32:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 Mar 2001 21:32:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO shiva.sixgirls.org) (206.252.141.232) by mta3 with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 22:33:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by shiva.sixgirls.org (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2JL9fx12789 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:09:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:09:41 -0500 (EST) To: Subject: Re: [lojban] re: djuno [was: random lojban annoyance In-Reply-To: <3AB671AB.9010406@reutershealth.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, John Cowan wrote: > Invent Yourself wrote: > > > krici > > believe; 'creed' > > > > x1 believes [without evidence/proof] belief/creed x2 (du'u) is > > true/assumed about subject x3 > > > > Can you give me any example some somebody believing anything without > > evidence? Even the Son of Sam serial killer had evidence; his neighbor's > > doberman told him to commit those murders. > > The evidence for a belief is another belief. I believe the sun > has risen because I see a light in the sky, and I believe I see > a light in the sky because ...? The logical conclusion of this is solipsism, a trivial case of extreme skepticism. > Some beliefs must be held without evidence, just as some truths > must be postulated without proof. Do you mean an assumption? At best, then, krici is a exact synonym for sruma. ----- We do not like And if a cat those Rs and Ds, needed a hat? Who can't resist Free enterprise more subsidies. is there for that!