From rlpowell@csclub.uwaterloo.ca Tue Mar 20 09:49:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 20 Mar 2001 17:49:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 28635 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2001 17:47:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Mar 2001 17:47:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca) (129.97.134.11) by mta2 with SMTP; 20 Mar 2001 17:47:31 -0000 Received: (from rlpowell@localhost) by calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA02218 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:54:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:54:20 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] RE: krici (and hath been slave to thousands) Message-ID: <20010320125419.R3953@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from pycyn@aol.com on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 10:23:42AM -0500 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 10:23:42AM -0500, pycyn@aol.com wrote: > English is actually better than Lojban for distinguishing belief from > assumption. Two idioms serve to point toward the difference. We *have* > beliefs, we *make* assumptions. There is nothing odd about saying "I am > assuming that," whereas "I am believing that," when said by a native speaker > rather than an Indian (dot) can almost only be a Method actor describing his > preparation for playing the part of a believer. Actually, practioners of certain branches of magick say that all the time. Most notably Chaos magick, but there are others. Not that this necessarily invalidates your point, just want to make it clear that there are no rules in English. -Robin -- http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. Information wants to be free. Too bad most of it is crap. --RLP