From bob@RATTLESNAKE.COM Sun Mar 25 14:02:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bob@rattlesnake.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 25 Mar 2001 22:02:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 42209 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2001 22:02:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2001 22:02:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO megalith.rattlesnake.com) (140.186.114.245) by mta3 with SMTP; 25 Mar 2001 23:03:13 -0000 Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.111) for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 17:02:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 17:02:10 -0500 (EST) To: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, lojban@yahoogroups.com In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [lojban] Random lojban questions/annoyances. Reply-to: bob@rattlesnake.com References: X-eGroups-From: "Robert J. Chassell" From: "Robert J. Chassell" I'm not being confused by 'know'. I want to know what a ve djuno is, and also to know how "X djuno P fo Y" and "X djuno not-P fo Z" could be true. Its how you come to know or believe or apprehend or consider true something. For example: I came to know that the butler was innocent because he told me so. I came to know that the butler was guilty because he held a smoking gun in his hand. It goes without saying that it takes judgement to decide what is known and what is not. Most of the time the judgement is made without conscious effort or thought, but sometimes it is conscious and difficult. -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com