From cowan@ccil.org Sun Mar 25 15:24:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 25 Mar 2001 23:24:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 99315 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2001 23:24:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 25 Mar 2001 23:24:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta1 with SMTP; 25 Mar 2001 23:24:39 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14hJsM-00007h-00; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:24:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [lojban] Random lojban questions/annoyances. In-Reply-To: from And Rosta at "Mar 25, 2001 09:12:05 pm" To: And Rosta Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:24:46 -0500 (EST) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan And Rosta scripsit: > I'm not being confused by 'know'. I want to know what a ve djuno is, > and also to know how "X djuno P fo Y" and "X djuno not-P fo Z" could > be true. After Galileo, some people held that the heliocentric theory of the solar system was theologically false, but philosophically (i.e. scientifically) true. For Y substitute "science"; for Z substitute "theology". Roughly speaking, a veldjuno is a mental gadget which accepts various statements and tells you which ones are true. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org One art/there is/no less/no more/All things/to do/with sparks/galore --Douglas Hofstadter