From lojbab@lojban.org Mon Mar 26 08:54:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 26 Mar 2001 16:54:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 50927 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2001 16:54:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Mar 2001 16:54:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-4.cais.net) (205.252.14.74) by mta3 with SMTP; 26 Mar 2001 17:55:04 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (209-8-89-81.dynamic.cais.com [209.8.89.81]) by stmpy-4.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2QGrvx36676 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:53:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010326114644.00b47a70@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:57:20 -0500 To: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Marketing lojban In-Reply-To: References: <99l2m8+4r97@eGroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 11:18 AM 03/25/2001 -0700, Jay Kominek wrote: > > The reason I bring up editability is that I frequently find the > > formatting of some web-based document to be suboptimum. Not a > > problem (to me) if it's in Word. But it's basically unreadable if > > it's in PDF format. For example, lojban.org has a short .pdf Lojban > > dictionary written with a microscopic font. It looks like a nice > > piece of work, but I'd need to tweak it before printing it -- not an > > option with .pdf. We didn't create it. The plain text file is ours. >Does anybody edit the reference grammar? Did anyone (Besides John Cowan) >before it was published? I was the publisher; my wife Nora did the indexing; both of us did an edit pass through the text, though nearly all chapters also were offered to the community for comment before I even looked at them for the first time. I used Microsoft Word after I discovered that my learning curve with Pagemaker 6.0 would be too high, Pagemaker did not seem to have the capacity to support the kind of macro-based indexing that Nora needed to produce the copiously detailed index, and we found a printer who claimed to be able to produce a book from Word files (the latter turned out to be false, and we had to produce Postscript and PDFs. But I was able to have Word do that with some painstaking including use of their linotype machine printer driver in Word.) Editting and formatting took around 4 months, and cleanup of the galleys another month, the latter primarily because relatively minor changes caused repagination of the entire document which then took regeneration of the index, etc. >I figure the textbook is a text_book_. The ultimate goal is to have it >printed and distributed to students in classrooms. Therefore, it shouldn't >just look okay printed, it should look great printed, and printed quality >should be the first concern. I'm not sure that print quality has ever been of high import in textbooks. The main thing we are lacking that most language textbooks have, is copious quantities of line graphics to convey concepts without words. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org