From Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Tue Mar 27 10:30:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Mar 2001 18:30:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 73043 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 18:30:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Mar 2001 18:30:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hm.egroups.com) (10.1.10.45) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 18:30:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.4.69] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2001 18:30:42 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:30:38 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: lojban audial recognition etc. Message-ID: <99qm8e+6r94@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 916 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 193.149.49.79 From: "A.W.T." Recently, I uploaded an audio sample (.rm) to Yahoo Groups "lojban" and won= =3D=0D der whether its comprehensible or not. It's the initial=20 part of a poem I translated from an ancient Chinese style poetry of strict = =3D=0D "l=FC shih" type. (You can find the Lojban text at http://www.fa-kuan.muc.de/LOJBAN.RXML ). .aulun. BTW, IMHO one reason for new Lojban-interested people getting bored off and= =3D=0D leaving again might be long philosophical threads of=20 the DJUNO/KRICI kind - whereas basic vocabulary to express ourselves is sti= =3D=0D ll missing or at least not at all obvious! (like:=20 "already"/"still", "not yet"/"no longer" etc. - Don't remember the old thre= =3D=0D ad about this topic, which - as far I recall - had no real=20 conclusion: naza'o/za'onai ???) Shouldn't we better leave the ivory tower a= =3D=0D nd turn toward people instead of discussing "linguistic"=20 specialties as sort of an oblivious and eccentric navel gazing?