From pycyn@aol.com Tue Mar 27 19:22:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Mar 2001 03:22:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 1174 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 03:22:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 Mar 2001 03:22:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m05.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.8) by mta2 with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 03:22:48 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.90.121c52e2 (25715) for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:22:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <90.121c52e2.27f2b2fb@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:22:35 EST Subject: Re: [lojban] Finding meaning in a navel (was: lojban audial recognition etc. To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_90.121c52e2.27f2b2fb_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10501 From: pycyn@aol.com --part1_90.121c52e2.27f2b2fb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/27/2001 8:16:26 PM Central Standard Time, xod@sixgirls.org writes: > I would settle for a place in krici that holds the belief-evidence, or at > the very least a relaxation of the English to eliminate the condition that > the selkrici must have no evidence. > {krici} with an evidence place is {jinvi}, which we have already. And the English does not have a requirement that selkrici have no evidence, so we can't eliminate it. The English does point out that the question of evidence is not a relevant one to raise with {krici}, but that is different from saying that there is none. {krici} is purely psychological; not logical. (I seem to have been overly optimistic in thinking that the practical work of the thread was done.) --part1_90.121c52e2.27f2b2fb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/27/2001 8:16:26 PM Central Standard Time,
xod@sixgirls.org writes:



I would settle for a place in krici that holds the belief-evidence, or at
the very least a relaxation of the English to eliminate the condition that
the selkrici must have no evidence.



{krici} with an evidence place is {jinvi}, which we have already.  And the
English does not have a requirement that selkrici have no evidence, so we
can't eliminate it.  The English does point out that the question of evidence
is not a relevant one to raise with {krici}, but that is different from
saying that there is none.  {krici} is purely psychological; not logical.
(I seem to have been overly optimistic in thinking that the practical work of
the thread was done.) --part1_90.121c52e2.27f2b2fb_boundary--